“I'm not quite sure I "get" why people want identi.ca. I mean isn't it just a Twitter clone? Why go backwards from FriendFeed? Isn't FriendFeed already a superior communications platform? I signed up for it but I'm just not sure how I can justify spending time there when FF is vastly superior.”

I just like playing around with new stuff. Already I tend to use FriendFeed more than Twitter and I'll probably goof with identi.ca for awhile like I did with Plurk. At least I like identi.ca a LOT more than Plurk. -

There are two misguided notions: 1) that Identi.ca is a "federated" service out of the box (it isn't), and 2) that because it's open source, it automatically means all features anybody wants gets put back into the identi.ca service (it doesn't). It does allow you to run your own microblogging service and hack it up, if you want. Number of people who are going to do that? Very, very few. -

Yeah, I get "playing around" with it. I do that with everything too. But after playing around with it it just seems like Twitter, unless I'm missing something. If I'm going to invest time in something it needs to be a step forward, not backwards. Feels like a step backwards to me from FriendFeed. -

the open sourced potential distributed hosting nature of it is whats interesting to me thomas - not a replacement for friendfeed which is conversation & discovery central for me but it could be an interesting experiment in what a short msg'g platform could be if architecturally done right - very early though -

It is an interesting point and brings up the question of how viable an open source FriendFeed clone would be. The primary motivation for the Twitter clones has been performance, but perhaps there would be other advantages? Just a thought. -

We like the concept as you can tell.. Just like twitter but not buggy!!!!!!! -

Actually, now that I think about it, identi.ca will never be a real player until FriendFeed starts working with it. -

I see no point to go backwards, of course first you have to try it if you want to compare it.
http://ubervu.com/ this is what I wanna try when will be public. -

I signed, but will use twitter for post feed distribution and the occasional chat, but i agree that this platform is where we should spend most of our time, when we are not creating content. -

i keep my ff twitter free! micro-blogging belongs to twitter and co -

I second utterz, also left a message asking to intergrate its cross posting with FF, this way we can select if we want some or all messages input to FF. -

Damn, I wish you could "like" comments, because what Winer said here is exactly what I'm feeling, even if I'm not a developer. -

I agree and I still find that I post to twitter. My network on FF is really limited and I get absolutely no feedback here. So until more people i know get on board or I become more interesting I post on Twitter and look enviously at people who can get feedback here. Either way, I've signed up for identi.ca but I'm not using it. -

People want all these new things because it's "trendy" to have a bajillion social networking tools. I have trouble keeping up with the ones I have, but then that's the product of a 9+ hour workday coupled with a 3+ hour round trip commute and finding time to spend with the family. -

Great dialog Thomas. Think most of us would agree that FF and Twitter are essentially two different avenues and that if a SOLID replacement to Twitter came along (with an importer) before they fix it .... could (will) see an exodus of a lot of users. -

Amen to that! FF is a winner, hands down in my opinion! -

Hi Thomas. You make me wonder where are Pownce, Twine, and the whole. of course it's definitely the triumph of less is more: less functions, more community, that's why we're still twitting - -

FF will be the clear winner of this all when it gains SMS functionality -

I second Glenn Batuyong, SMS support is really a selling point for twitter IMO -

@Glenn that would be a great feature! -

twitter (when it works) is still better at being distributed and easy to understand -

What's great about Indenti.ca is that IT IS a Twitter clone. No need to make it "fancier" or "Feature-packed", and what was great about Twitter is that it did ONE thing well (when it's available). FF is only useful for people like you, Winer and Scoble who have followers commenting on YOUR posts. For me, with 0 followers, I rely on my "friends" timeline to read what you guys are writing, and there's WAY too much noise. Especially the most annoying feature the "friend of a friend" posts. -

Of course, I just realized you hit "hide", then "see more options...", then "hide all friends-of-friends". That's a big fail in my book. -

Terry (and everyone else pissed off about noise), protip: if you don't like noise, don't start using a service only following A-listers. Those people are interacting with hundreds to thousands of people, and will introduce you to a huge amount of noise, even on Twitter. If you can't find people to follow that aren't A-listers, maybe being on that service isn't the best thing for you at this time. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. -

The stole the whole thing from Zobzee.com anyway. -

You know if they were an EXACT clone of Twitter (minus the downtime) I think they'd do very well. -

It's just another tube that feeds into FriendFeed, to me. -

their IM works, me and another were having a convo through indenti.ca with IM which i miss with twitter. i just like playing around with new things as well, that and "reserve" my username on the new launches, just in case. -

@Leo Yeah, They just have to do all the same features, and then we will just need a skin on it that makes it look 'exactly' like Twitter. Fail-Whale and everything :P Honestly, I've kinda moved away from the conversation on Twitter and Identi.ca. I mainly post on it with Ping.fm, but I don't really look at replies that much until I get a app. I don't know why, but I really just need something that will Pop Up, tell me what happened, then fade into the background. Browser won't do that -

Mark, I'm one of those very very few people then. Already talking to a developer about adding identi.ca's platform to The China Business Network's re-launch. Let the hacking for niche communities begin. :) -

Christine, don't get me wrong: that's really, really cool. And I'm sure there are going to be others like you that find uses for laconi.ca. There's this notion that open source = perfect software, and it's really being pushed today and yesterday with identi.ca. It's not a game changer. The "it has potential" argument only goes so far. Many, many, many projects have potential. It's what an enterprising person or group of people do with it that matters. -

@chacha - you want Twhirl -

@thomas hawk. you nailed it -

hopefully as identi.ca comes along they will become more feature rich and faster. I for one like their support of open standards. And the fact that they are hosted outside the U.S. and thus perhaps subject different laws -

I couldn't agree more. Why have a new service that is just a clone of another? Unless identi.ca can do something that Twitter can't, then thanks but no thanks. -

@Mark Trapp I totally understand about the A-lister noise, but up to certain point I LIKE the noise. I don't really care that one of my friends is about to take his dog for a walk, but I AM interested in Dave Winer's thoughts on whatever-new web app. Twitter for me is the perfect blend of quasi-feedreader and cult of personality. FF seems to be "everything that everyone's doing everywhere and sometimes more than once". Plus, I like the @ reply system. -

@leo, but it won't work; also friendfeed I think is more prone to take over a huge chunk of say what facebook does, rather than a huge chunk of what twitter/etc does. you still need the pipes to feed into the main. I'd also add that a more dynamic/distributed way to have a microblogging like community flow between IRC style chats and twitter like status blogging, so sort of the way to go... -

Let me just say, for once, I am enjoying my FriendFeed experience. Maybe it's all about participation. On Twitter, I can just read what others are saying and make an occasional stupid post... but here, it seems more enjoyable if you're actually INVOLVED in the conversation. -

Looked at Indenti.ca and could say, for the moment, it wasn't my thing. Besides, it's all I can do to stay current on FF and Twitter (when I actually go to twitter, which hasn't been for the past few days). -

SMS support isn't important to me. I prefer managing my interaction with a microblogging site myself rather than be interrupted. For me, and I may be unique here as a photographer, photos are also extremely important. That's why I liked Pownce a lot more than Twitter when it came out. But FF has them all beat hands down, so I'm still not sure why I'd invest time in something like identi.ca now. -

I would have to agree with you on identi.ca. If twitter has this many problems already, would identi have the same issues as well. I really like FF much better then twitter or identi. -

I'm with Thomas Hawk on SMS, too. I can just open up IE on my WM5 phone and hit Twitter or FriendFeed just fine. -

"open sourced potential distributed hosting nature," that sounds cool and all but it reminds me too much of stuff like OpenID or Ubuntu, or whatever it's called. Sounds really good but wayyyy too geeky to ever get broader adoption which is what makes a community site work best. FF has the traction at this point and a nucleus of interesting people sourcing interesting content filtered through social interactivity. Beats anything else out there at present. -

I hope that things like this with their mobile extensions will see the end of the rip off that is SMS. -

I'm finding FF/Twitter great, but am exploring identi.ca -

It could be that folks are just looking (desperately) for something that will be more stable than Twitter, while having all the interesting people on it. -

Sign-up is down, Twitter Part Deux -

@leolaporte said it all. I get all of the luminaries tallkng to me in real time, and that reaks of awesome. AIR might just be the killer app of the year. -

Right now, Indenti.ca is Twitter, minus a bunch of things. Comparing Twitter and FriendFeed has always been an apple and oranges comparison anyway—one isn't better than the other, since they do different things. Twitter is essentially in beta right now; things should get interesting when Twitter is completely back with XMPP, track, etc. -

@thomas Hawk and @deathbyninja Being someone with an unlimited data plan, I have to say that the usefulness of SMS should not be overlooked. Not everyone has unlimited data, and in some cases, that data is a walked garden (like T-Zones). Plus not everyone has a smartphone, and in some cases, it's just easier to slam out a text message (especially when in an area with crappy data coverage). I find myself jumping between mobile web, Twibble, and SMS (most often the latter two). Any service that lacks a mobile application or SMS tends to see less use by me (see Pownce, FriendFeed seems to be the exception though). -

@Thomas Yes, I agree "open source, decentralized" sounds very geeky, but all that techie talk will be TRANSPARENT for ALL users once it all just works!
http://is.gd/LlY -

i agree. Fun to try different systems! -

It's the fact that it's open source is what is most alluring, to me. -

Most people just went to plant their flag, get their name, just in case ;-) -

Honestly, I found it just as slow as Twitter and missing in features. I know, I know - it's open source and features can be easily added. But really, most of my closest friends aren't leaving Twitter and most of my techie friends are on FF. Everyone segregated themselves for me. I reserved my user names at identi.ca, just like I did at Plurk, but that was the extent of it for me. -

Having the ability to post media messages like utterz would be a nice addition to FF. -